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GlobeSt.com: Is it hard to convince property owners of the value of sustainability in the recession when they might perceive high initial costs?

Dinenberg: When we go and meet with a client for the first time, we explain the renewable that we suggest we go forward with. As far as capital costs are concerned, we have a structure that alleviates all of the costs for the end user. In essence, we pay for the system, the installation and equipment and just pass the direct savings on to the owner of the real estate. If they can't go out and get the financing because of the liquidity crunch that we're in, and they have their business that they need their core capital for, we can alleviate that whole problem. We'll pay for the system, and then we basically act as a utility company selling them the electricity at a discounted price.

GlobeSt.com: Different states have different incentives for energy saving. Is this a regional thing or is every state different?