Headquartered in Woodbridge, NJ, Helios Capital LLC, an affiliate of the Schultz Organization, was formed in early 2009 and specializes in small-balance, non-performing commercial whole loans throughout New York and New Jersey. The firm’s senior managing director, Jonathan Horn, took some time to speak with GlobeSt.com about its niche in the market.
GlobeSt.com: Could you talk to us about your background?
Horn: My professional career has always been in real estate but prior to setting up and creating Helios about three years ago, I was managing a private equity fund that was buying large pools of performing commercial and residential loans. While we were successful at that, the bid-ask made it impossible for us to trade, so those same institutions started showing us commercial paper.
At that time it was the larger institutions but there were a lot internal problems--they didn’t know what the assets were worth. So I decided to leave that private equity firm and create Helios--along with our partners here--which focuses on sourcing small-balance loans from community and regional banks throughout New York and New Jersey.
Our investors are corporate institutional and private players that are experienced in the acquisition of debt. But given where community and regional banks can afford to trade, it needs to be on a one-off basis. Today, we are placing one-off, non-performing loans with the traditional, local real estate investor.
To get more specific, most of our exclusive assignments have been on behalf of lenders on a one-off basis on trades less than $25 million, and we trade either via a mass marketing campaign or on an off-market basis depending on what the lender prefers. Most of the trades recently have been multifamily mixed-use throughout New York and New Jersey. But we’re also seeing more retail and office come into play. The trades we do are not at tremendously steep discounts at all. Given the fact that, again, they are being sourced from community and regional banks that simply can’t afford to take huge haircuts. In addition, the values have not depreciated all that significantly. And the investors that are buying the loans currently have portfolios within those submarkets.
GlobeSt.com: Have you seen more trades in recent months?
Horn: What we have seen over the past six months is some larger pools trading ($150 million to $500 million). In the past, you did not see this other than through the acquisition of other banks, FDIC sales or sales through DebtX or Mission Capital. Now, we’re seeing these larger pools being sold directly from the institution itself. We feel as though those large institutions weren’t realizing the same returns on large pools of loans through the FDIC, DebtX or Mission as they would on an individual, one-off basis.
These institutions tired to trade on their own on a one-off basis but then ultimately found it easier and more efficient to trade a larger pool to a hedge fund or a private equity fund. And that’s what we’ve seen. Those funds are now hiring us to dispose of, or trade, some smaller pools from those larger pools.
GlobeSt.com: Do you think we will continue to see a pattern of more loan sales in 2011?
Horn: Yes. Believe it or not, in New York and New Jersey, non-performing debt is trading almost at the same level as it would for an REO. You’re not getting huge discounts on debt. So it gives you an opportunity to trade at almost an equal level as an REO. Why not sell the debt as opposed to going through the foreclosure process, which could be anywhere from one to three years. This can also be attributed to the fact that you have a ton of maturities in 2011 and 2012. A lot of community and regional banks tried to workout or modify with borrowers in the hopes they could do something, but unfortunately a lot of times it’s proven unsuccessful.
GlobeSt.com: What does Helios plan to focus on this year and in 2012?
Horn: We are focusing on more exclusive assignments on behalf of the lenders because we’ve really been successful here. We’re getting more of those exclusive assignments. The first year we did about $30 million to $40 million in business and the second was between $50 million and $70 million. We really believe in the third year it could be anywhere from $150 million to $300 million. We think it can grow that quickly.The focus will still be on community and regional banks, small-balance debt where we feel like there’s still less competition and fewer experienced borrowers, therefore making it easier to get to the assets through foreclosure or deed in lieu.
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