LAS VEGAS—When it comes to obtaining funds for real estate, capital markets pros say now is the time to get into the market. That's according to a lineup of experts speaking on the subject at ICSC RECON at the Westgate Hotel here as part of a panel discussion moderated by Kieran Quinn, managing director, Guggenheim Commercial Real Estate Finance LLC.
Is there enough capital to buy CMBS bonds? Yes, said Roddy O'Neal, director of national production for Goldman Sachs. “We think there's enough capital to buy those bonds. We feel good about the market right now.”
“Debt yields are tighter; leverage continues to creep up. If we can get amortization in certain markets, we feel pretty good about things,” added Liz Velazquez, a director of Prudential Mortgage Capital Co.
Ken McIntyre, senior vice president of Hudson City Savings Bank said underwriting is deteriorating some, but definitely better than 2006. “Can we underwrite risks and trends?” he asked. “There was a lot of proforma—not so much now.”
Christine Zarndt, senior vice president with Draper and Kramer, said she is sometimes surprised by the questions loan officers are asking.
O'Neal asked, “In the CMBS world, speaking to low cap rates, what does that mean for debt yield?”
Answered Velasquez, “Focusing on grocery-anchored at an eight debt yield, sales are getting stronger with large, regional malls.”
Zarndt added that many life companies are financing stand-alone drug stores.
“The bigger the boxes, the more trouble we have,” added Quinn.
“In CMBS, when you're financing a big box space, performance is key. Is cash flow substantial? How liquid is that space? Can you backfill that space?” asked O'Neal.
McIntyre remarked on the high volatility of construction loans and, the impact on pricing and availability.
The subject of condominiums in a mixed use environment was presented to the panel.
“We are still at a point where condo is a bad word,” said McIntyre. “But mixed use is getting attractive for the lenders.”
Entertainment centers are considered a big draw for some lenders, if the numbers are present.
“We are very selective in that space and looking at the numbers; they have to be well above national numbers,” said Velazquez.
McIntyre said, “You can use plenty of analytics, but at the end of the day it's the human element that comes into play.”
In closing remarks, Velazquez said: “A rise in interest rates my mean a rise in cap rates, but strong economic growth. So it could be a good thing, or it could be risk related.”
“Take your money today,” said O'Neal. “Don't wait.”
“There is no shortage of capital,” said Zarndt. “The key is understanding your borrowers' needs. Cover your bases.”
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